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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Adeline PINK (113719515) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:59 pm

I realize my opinion about this is extremely unpopular but I really believe we should be allowed 5 votes and that is it. I have been told that people who vote over and over do not upset the balance and that is not true. I saw a friend's entry yesterday and I could have gone back and started over and voted for her twice but I did not. People who say there is no way to cheat are either naive or stupid. There is always a way to cheat in Yo. I could imagine facebook groupies posting their entries for their members to see and vote for if they happen to have them in their lineup.
I also think there is no excuse for someone's entry appearing more than once and I frequently see repeats. I also think there has to be an explanation of how certain entries that do not appear to fulfill the requirements show up to be voted on.

I am really sick of this whole thing and would not be participating this time except for the fact that I want the doll house stuff.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby JulieHootieScraps (108384802) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:02 pm

StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote:
voodoosue (118968402) wrote:i got a TOTAL of 5.1 score with full bar.. but if i didnt do the bonus i would have never made the extra second gems i had this below 4.5 a 4.3 +.08 bonus= 5.1

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Yep it's a shame we spend time and money to get slapped in the face!! And obviously I an new to this forum thing lol I have no idea how you got your images on here. :)


Stephy, many of use use Imgur, a free image hosting site. You take a ss of your image and then load it to Imgur and choose the bb link to share it here.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:07 pm

JulieHootieScraps (108384802) wrote:
StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote:
voodoosue (118968402) wrote:i got a TOTAL of 5.1 score with full bar.. but if i didnt do the bonus i would have never made the extra second gems i had this below 4.5 a 4.3 +.08 bonus= 5.1

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Yep it's a shame we spend time and money to get slapped in the face!! And obviously I an new to this forum thing lol I have no idea how you got your images on here. :)


Stephy, many of use use Imgur, a free image hosting site. You take a ss of your image and then load it to Imgur and choose the bb link to share it here.


Oh ok thank you so much!! :hug:
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby voodoosue (118968402) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:11 pm

JulieHootieScraps (108384802) wrote:
StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote:
voodoosue (118968402) wrote:i got a TOTAL of 5.1 score with full bar.. but if i didnt do the bonus i would have never made the extra second gems i had this below 4.5 a 4.3 +.08 bonus= 5.1

welcome to the forums :)


Yep it's a shame we spend time and money to get slapped in the face!! And obviously I an new to this forum thing lol I have no idea how you got your images on here. :)


Stephy, many of use use Imgur, a free image hosting site. You take a ss of your image and then load it to Imgur and choose the bb link to share it here.


i use this site super super easy :D
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Theresa (122233016) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:19 pm

Adeline PINK (113719515) wrote:I realize my opinion about this is extremely unpopular but I really believe we should be allowed 5 votes and that is it. I have been told that people who vote over and over do not upset the balance and that is not true. I saw a friend's entry yesterday and I could have gone back and started over and voted for her twice but I did not. People who say there is no way to cheat are either naive or stupid. There is always a way to cheat in Yo. I could imagine facebook groupies posting their entries for their members to see and vote for if they happen to have them in their lineup.
I also think there is no excuse for someone's entry appearing more than once and I frequently see repeats. I also think there has to be an explanation of how certain entries that do not appear to fulfill the requirements show up to be voted on.

I am really sick of this whole thing and would not be participating this time except for the fact that I want the doll house stuff.

there you go again with the name calling. you do realise that if you did go back in to do more voting you would not have seen your friend again! only on an odd occasion i have seen a forumer. and even when i have gone back to do more votes i have not seen the same person again ever! even the forumers i have seen in all the time we have done these events, have not been ones who i am closest friends with. there is no way of cheating cos even if i wanted to spend hours voting, which i DON'T, then i would not see anyone i wanted to! if we done things your way and only voted 5 times things would be even worse. take all those who can't be bothered anymore and vote 5 on right or downvote good ones. then all those who actually care only get 5 votes... no-one would get good scores anymore!
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby CynnamynSpycePaw (11683468) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:21 pm

Yep I believe something was wrong. I entered with a full bar. Checked my score. Some how it did not keep my full bar. It gave me like a .76 instead of a .80 And then gave me a 4.8.
And I did everything it asked. So I do not get it.


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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:58 pm

I'm with Julie, I believe if you have full bonus you should auto get 4.5. :( Sorry for your low score, I would've voted for you. I have no idea what the voters want though, my scores are usually all over the place.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Adeline PINK (113719515) wrote:I realize my opinion about this is extremely unpopular but I really believe we should be allowed 5 votes and that is it. I have been told that people who vote over and over do not upset the balance and that is not true. I saw a friend's entry yesterday and I could have gone back and started over and voted for her twice but I did not. People who say there is no way to cheat are either naive or stupid. There is always a way to cheat in Yo. I could imagine facebook groupies posting their entries for their members to see and vote for if they happen to have them in their lineup.
I also think there is no excuse for someone's entry appearing more than once and I frequently see repeats. I also think there has to be an explanation of how certain entries that do not appear to fulfill the requirements show up to be voted on.

I am really sick of this whole thing and would not be participating this time except for the fact that I want the doll house stuff.

I think it's BS to see so many repeats too. I really think they should address that and only allow an entry to show up once. I love extra voting though and do it for rooms when I can. However, I rarely see forumers and it is super rare (twice ever since I started doing GEs) that I have seen a friend in voting. So, the chances of someone stacking the cards and going back to keep voting for same person is highly unlikely unless they have some kind of hack.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Kio (185180932) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:13 pm

Almost every day I see at least one complaint thread deserved and dedicated to this feature. I think at some point you just know it's either meant for you or it's not. I miss logging in and seeing everything in the store, now I only see thread after thread where people are profoundly upset over these things. I entered these a few times and think I might have only got one 5.8, can barely remember. These things like the casino are designed to have varied outcomes. Play and spend at your own risk, if it's not worth the risk then break the habit and play by your own rules. That's my take anyway.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby OMG SHOES (2131112) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:29 pm

JulieHootieScraps (108384802) wrote:I'm sorry about your low score. I'm a firm believer that everyone who fills the bonus meter should AUTOMATICALLY get at least a 4.5 and never fall below that score. That's only fair. It gets so frustrating that crap entries constantly get higher scores than those who try hard to at least get all the gems a 4.5 or higher would garner. It's a slap to only get 50 gems.

Also, Doves, welcome to the forum :hug:

Agreed, Julie!
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Theresa (122233016) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:44 pm

Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Adeline PINK (113719515) wrote:I realize my opinion about this is extremely unpopular but I really believe we should be allowed 5 votes and that is it. I have been told that people who vote over and over do not upset the balance and that is not true. I saw a friend's entry yesterday and I could have gone back and started over and voted for her twice but I did not. People who say there is no way to cheat are either naive or stupid. There is always a way to cheat in Yo. I could imagine facebook groupies posting their entries for their members to see and vote for if they happen to have them in their lineup.
I also think there is no excuse for someone's entry appearing more than once and I frequently see repeats. I also think there has to be an explanation of how certain entries that do not appear to fulfill the requirements show up to be voted on.

I am really sick of this whole thing and would not be participating this time except for the fact that I want the doll house stuff.

I think it's BS to see so many repeats too. I really think they should address that and only allow an entry to show up once. I love extra voting though and do it for rooms when I can. However, I rarely see forumers and it is super rare (twice ever since I started doing GEs) that I have seen a friend in voting. So, the chances of someone stacking the cards and going back to keep voting for same person is highly unlikely unless they have some kind of hack.

:thumbsup: :trophy: ... i have seen repeats and in my first lot of voting too. i don't know about anyone else but the ones i have seen repeated are always the crap ones that i downvoted or skipped anyway so they certainly didn't get one vote from me let alone two!
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Denna (10205906) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:44 pm

What a day... :phew:

Time for me to go sleep, before I get myself in trouble with my comments... o_o

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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby SamiSpiffy23 (138400888) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote::shocked: I would like to know how I'm suppose to recover from this last outfit challenge. I cannot believe that I got a 4.2 with a .80 boost!!! This is very upsetting to me and it's making me wonder why I continue to spend real money. I would like to know how our characters are being seen to even be voted on.
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She's stunning and should've been a perfect 5.8. :(
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Adeline PINK (113719515) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:56 pm

Theresa (122233016) wrote:
Adeline PINK (113719515) wrote:I realize my opinion about this is extremely unpopular but I really believe we should be allowed 5 votes and that is it. I have been told that people who vote over and over do not upset the balance and that is not true. I saw a friend's entry yesterday and I could have gone back and started over and voted for her twice but I did not. People who say there is no way to cheat are either naive or stupid. There is always a way to cheat in Yo. I could imagine facebook groupies posting their entries for their members to see and vote for if they happen to have them in their lineup.
I also think there is no excuse for someone's entry appearing more than once and I frequently see repeats. I also think there has to be an explanation of how certain entries that do not appear to fulfill the requirements show up to be voted on.

I am really sick of this whole thing and would not be participating this time except for the fact that I want the doll house stuff.


there you go again with the name calling. you do realise that if you did go back in to do more voting you would not have seen your friend again! only on an odd occasion i have seen a forumer. and even when i have gone back to do more votes i have not seen the same person again ever! even the forumers i have seen in all the time we have done these events, have not been ones who i am closest friends with. there is no way of cheating cos even if i wanted to spend hours voting, which i DON'T, then i would not see anyone i wanted to! if we done things your way and only voted 5 times things would be even worse. take all those who can't be bothered anymore and vote 5 on right or downvote good ones. then all those who actually care only get 5 votes... no-one would get good scores anymore!


Feel free to tell me who I am "name calling." I am not just whistling Dixie on here. I have actually gone back to the beginning and seen several people show up again. Please tell me how your voting more than five times helps people get good scores and how they wouldn't if you stopped.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby JulieHootieScraps (108384802) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:17 pm

Many of us here have discussed the GE entering and voting and have given excellent suggestions on how to improve them and make them more fair.

I don't understand the claim that someone can "go back to the beginning" and vote for someone more than once.

I FIRMLY believe that anyone who fills their bonus meter should automatically get a 4.5 and not be able to be penalized to fall below that score.

Since BVG has never clarified, it is unknown how many times one's entry is actually seen by others. Is it only given 5 opportunities to be voted on by different people? I don't think so, as I have the same entries come up in the same voting session even tho I have skipped them or have voted for the other entry (therefore, voting against them). I think there are voting pools and some people are in higher scoring groups and some are in lower scoring groups. The results are so inconsistant except for certain people who always seem to score high (and no, it is not dependant soley on skill, or else more people would get 5.8 more often -- some people NEVER have gotten that score but should).

I don't see any harm in going back and voting extra. I enjoy rewarding people for their efforts. I enjoy seeing great outfits and great rooms and sharing them with people who also enjoy that aspect. If I could only see 5 pairs of entries I just wouldn't vote. If that were the case, why would they have the skip feature? Personally, I think it's the people who purposefully downvote others and the ones who don't even look at the entries but just vote all left or all right, that are most harmful to the scores. I blame BVG for how they have set up the voting process. It is most beneficial to 100-gemmers who are in it for maximum gems. Any vote they get by chance works in their favor.

I've suggested before that perhaps there should be different categories instead. The 100gemmers could be in a lower category that gives fewer gems. Another level would be the artistic one which would be for more gems but have stricter requirements.Then people would vote according to the level in which they have entered.

What I don't want to see is no changes despite all the player unhappiness. I wish that no one with a full bonus meter would be able to score lower than 4.5.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby KiraDreamWeaverYOJ FMD (121078231) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:35 pm

StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote::shocked: I would like to know how I'm suppose to recover from this last outfit challenge. I cannot believe that I got a 4.2 with a .80 boost!!! This is very upsetting to me and it's making me wonder why I continue to spend real money. I would like to know how our characters are being seen to even be voted on.
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I saw your outfit in the voting and loved it, it was a tough choice, but I voted for the other one. I'm so sorry.
I always have the full max on the outfit challenge and this was the very first time I have ever gotten the 5.8. Thank you all who voted for me!! <3
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Daisy Grayce (159873910) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:48 pm

My avatar is my look for the last Gem voting and I got a 4.3. Something is sure fishy.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby Adeline PINK (113719515) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:49 pm

JulieHootieScraps (108384802) wrote:Many of us here have discussed the GE entering and voting and have given excellent suggestions on how to improve them and make them more fair.

I don't understand the claim that someone can "go back to the beginning" and vote for someone more than once.

I FIRMLY believe that anyone who fills their bonus meter should automatically get a 4.5 and not be able to be penalized to fall below that score.

Since BVG has never clarified, it is unknown how many times one's entry is actually seen by others. Is it only given 5 opportunities to be voted on by different people? I don't think so, as I have the same entries come up in the same voting session even tho I have skipped them or have voted for the other entry (therefore, voting against them). I think there are voting pools and some people are in higher scoring groups and some are in lower scoring groups. The results are so inconsistant except for certain people who always seem to score high (and no, it is not dependant soley on skill, or else more people would get 5.8 more often -- some people NEVER have gotten that score but should).

I don't see any harm in going back and voting extra. I enjoy rewarding people for their efforts. I enjoy seeing great outfits and great rooms and sharing them with people who also enjoy that aspect. If I could only see 5 pairs of entries I just wouldn't vote. If that were the case, why would they have the skip feature? Personally, I think it's the people who purposefully downvote others and the ones who don't even look at the entries but just vote all left or all right, that are most harmful to the scores. I blame BVG for how they have set up the voting process. It is most beneficial to 100-gemmers who are in it for maximum gems. Any vote they get by chance works in their favor.

I've suggested before that perhaps there should be different categories instead. The 100gemmers could be in a lower category that gives fewer gems. Another level would be the artistic one which would be for more gems but have stricter requirements.Then people would vote according to the level in which they have entered.

What I don't want to see is no changes despite all the player unhappiness. I wish that no one with a full bonus meter would be able to score lower than 4.5.


I have a memory from somewhere, wish I could remember where, it was said that it was impossible to get below a 3.5 but apparently that is not true. If one had a full bonus, they would need to get 3.7 as a base to reach 4.5, And it would seem to me that should be possible. I agree with you, if someone fills the bonus they should get 4.5 automatically. I do not know what can be done to make this gem thing better. I am really tired of seeing repeats and lousy entries.
As far as going back and seeing the same entries when I returned, what happened was I started the voting process but had to leave the computer and come back later to do it. When I came back and started over, I saw some of the same ones I had already seen. This has happened to me more than once.
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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

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Re: Unfair Gem Voting

Postby SinisterPrime (116808443) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 pm

StephyWhenDovesCry (112456482) wrote::shocked: I would like to know how I'm suppose to recover from this last outfit challenge. I cannot believe that I got a 4.2 with a .80 boost!!! This is very upsetting to me and it's making me wonder why I continue to spend real money. I would like to know how our characters are being seen to even be voted on.
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It seems the voters just randomly click without a thought for the actual effort that goes into an outfit or room :dizzy:
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