Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Gini (177176351) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:53 pm

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Dex Dexter (131354847) wrote::balloon: NOTE: I used preexisting YoWorld items to show how the proposed items would fit within the game. I'm not talking about just recoloring existing pieces. I'm hoping you'll make new pieces which can be used with those we already have.

Here's the proposal:

We already have some solid colors but they clash with some of the newer items. :sad:

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Solid colored items which would mesh with what we already have in the "Anniversary" theme: :party:

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Furniture pieces in bright, vibrant (solid) colors!! :thumbsup:

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Singular kitchen pieces which can be mixed in with other themes (forgive my terrible refrigerator!): :haha:

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Just like in the "Mardi Gras" theme: :party:

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Call the theme, "YoWorld Pride" - so the title has a double meaning and includes EVERYONE who has pride in the work they put into the game!

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Thanks for taking a look!!

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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Rough Boy (134088643) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:16 pm

I would use this . It is a very good idea !
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:47 pm

AAF Cokey2H0TxTBY (167109704) wrote:Ah I vote yes but pride in June for me ♡


Which is why I always start these threads early - so we might get a surprise in June! :D
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby LiL MaMa (149099631) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:49 pm

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LOVE this idea Dex! :party: :hug:

The fact that it's mainly recolouring should make it more viable - really hope to see this in-game :heart:


Hell Yeah :thumbsup:
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:52 pm

Kio (185180932) wrote:...you're essentially just asking for a rainbow theme with attached meaning. So i don't see what the big deal would be...


It's all I've ever been asking for and yet, almost every thread I've started about it gets locked because of nastiness erupting and craziness breaking out. I thought I'd illustrate my point this time around!

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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Kio (185180932) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:01 pm

Dex Dexter (131354847) wrote:
Kio (185180932) wrote:...you're essentially just asking for a rainbow theme with attached meaning. So i don't see what the big deal would be...


It's all I've ever been asking for and yet, almost every thread I've started about it gets locked because of nastiness erupting and craziness breaking out. I thought I'd illustrate my point this time around!

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Couldn't you create a pride room even with out an official theme though? It looks simple enough to do with items already in game.

I try to be tolerant of differences ( im not gay) so long as its not doing harm or being preached.
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Autumn Glory (105171200) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:31 pm

I hope you get your theme, Dex! :hug:
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Rod (126579776) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:46 pm

Dex Dexter (131354847) wrote:
Kio (185180932) wrote:...you're essentially just asking for a rainbow theme with attached meaning. So i don't see what the big deal would be...


It's all I've ever been asking for and yet, almost every thread I've started about it gets locked because of nastiness erupting and craziness breaking out. I thought I'd illustrate my point this time around!

:)

They've been locked because the concept of pride as a social movement and the concept of pride as a game theme have gotten confused. It is possible to support the movement or be tolerant of it, and still consider the theme problematic to deliver and sell. BVG cannot simply paint everything in rainbow colors and try to sell it. They would need to respectfully capture the gist of the movement without devaluing the people supporting it. That's tough to do without resorting to stereotypes (BVG does this a lot) or demeaning those involved.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't do it. There is a market they could capitalize on for both Pride supporters and people who like rainbows. I don't know if it would be enough to make it profitable as a theme, but they will never know until they try it. As for backlash, as with anything they do that relates to a controversial social theme, there will be some upset Yos. Cries of "what about the children" will definitely be flung around. And the church lady factor will also be felt.

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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Taurus (185839344) » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:01 pm

good luck
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Queenie (108874167) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:48 am

Miss TiFied (8432514) wrote:Image

LOVE this idea Dex! :party: :hug:

The fact that it's mainly recolouring should make it more viable - really hope to see this in-game :heart:



HELL YEA :)
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:39 am

Rod (126579776) wrote: BVG cannot simply paint everything in rainbow colors and try to sell it. They would need to respectfully capture the gist of the movement without devaluing the people supporting it. That's tough to do without resorting to stereotypes (BVG does this a lot) or demeaning those involved.


With respect, I disagree. They would be doing more than just slapping rainbows on things (as I've shown). Solid colored walls and floors? Solid colored furnishings? Releasing these would allow us to decorate in much broader ways, extending a room's versatility. From a design standpoint, solid colors are easier to decorate with than all these patterns and odd colors we've gotten before now. Also, there would be no need to capture a movement, of any sort. Just like with other things, they could release the base items and let us decorate as we will.

Rod (126579776) wrote:There is a market they could capitalize on for both Pride supporters and people who like rainbows.


I've shown this is about more than just rainbows. They've already released Pride items in the Icelandic theme, in the San Fransisco theme, and in bits and pieces before. Solid colored walls and floors, and the other items I've listed shouldn't be a stretch. This could be done and be profitable, if done well. I recolored everything to illustrate a point, not to suggest they just toss a rainbow on something and say, "Here! Enjoy!"

Rod (126579776) wrote: Cries of "what about the children" will definitely be flung around.


This is easy to refute. They've already made it clear, this game is not for "children". Look at how much wine, beer, and alcoholic products we have in the game.

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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Erwyle (187240896) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:05 am

So, I like the concept of a pride theme, but not this one necessarily. There's nothing really unique here that would support it's own theme. The best part of your proposal is the parade route imo. The trouble with a pride theme in general would be what captures the spirit of the gay community? Is it love, marriage, kids, work, home, something else? Since gay folks are the same as other folks, there is no real difference except acceptance. So, I suggest you focus on the parade and how you'd make that work for everyone. I see you persisting in your effort, and I wanted to give you something that may work. Good luck Dex!
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Patmin (3374531) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:19 am

Kio (185180932) wrote:
Dex Dexter (131354847) wrote:
Kio (185180932) wrote:...you're essentially just asking for a rainbow theme with attached meaning. So i don't see what the big deal would be...


It's all I've ever been asking for and yet, almost every thread I've started about it gets locked because of nastiness erupting and craziness breaking out. I thought I'd illustrate my point this time around!

:)

Couldn't you create a pride room even with out an official theme though? It looks simple enough to do with items already in game.

I try to be tolerant of differences ( im not gay) so long as its not doing harm or being preached.


I know you're addressing Dex but I just wanted to add. I have not seen any wonderful solid colors in YoDepot. Not as great like Dex's example. I have actually tried to make solid color walls and floors. There is nothing available in the colors I want. And the furniture never matches the colors that I can make with the walls and floors. I love perfect color matches and this is right up my alley.
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Sun May 19, 2019 11:18 am

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:So, I like the concept of a pride theme, but not this one necessarily. There's nothing really unique here that would support it's own theme.


- My idea of solid color walls/floors speaks to every theme. We have either bland, neutral colors or bold, garish ones which don't match anything but white/black furnishings.

- True, the rainbow-colored items would be a novelty but you can see, with the last three Anniversary themes, those solid colored furniture items are popular and do well when integrated into a theme. A solid green couch (like the one we have in-game, now) would go with Christmas, St. Patrick's Day, and could be put into any other area. Other solid colored items, in vibrant, bright colors, would do the same.

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:The trouble with a pride theme in general would be what captures the spirit of the gay community? Is it love, marriage, kids, work, home, something else? Since gay folks are the same as other folks, there is no real difference except acceptance.


- As far as the Homes/Avenues, these are for everyone. What bothers me is holidays like Mother's/Father's Day, Valentine's Day, and Christmas, where we have just one type of couple released in these themes - and when we DO get the choice of creating same-sex couples, the individuals NPCs are always YoCash (and a bit higher priced). Why? The Vikings have given us singular Interactives, which is nice, but the prices are often prohibitive.

- I'm all for acceptance. Inclusion would be better.

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:So, I suggest you focus on the parade and how you'd make that work for everyone. I see you persisting in your effort, and I wanted to give you something that may work. Good luck Dex!


- As I stated, "PRIDE" can be used in conjunction with YoWorld, in general. This sort of double-meaning could then be a metaphor for the overlap in the solid colors and such that I've put forth. I'm not wanting the Vikings to break into the streets chanting slogans and carrying signs. What I am wanting, what I've always wanted, is for them to include us in their themes - and to do so without apology - the same way they do religions, genders, and all other fantastic forms of diversity!

Thank you for the encouragement!! :D
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby BOBBI (13706123) » Sun May 19, 2019 4:47 pm

A pride theme is a great idea Dex!
For others saying its a clash, they have already added certain "pride" related items within the game just haven't devoted it's own theme and I didn't really see an uproar about that. If you don't quite agree/support the theme, you can still purchase a rainbow table, or solid color sets as Dex was mentioning. ;)
I am all for supporting all sorts of inclusiveness since there is so much diversity in Yo.
In another thought, I'm also tired of the same three color schemes for themes and would love a variety of colors to design with.
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby ELFTexasSouthern (103681266) » Sun May 19, 2019 7:04 pm

A few of my good friends are gay and my hubs is bi, I would love this theme to show my support :heart:
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Vi Corleone (177818762) » Sun May 19, 2019 8:32 pm

I'd love a pride theme, but with more than just the rainbow.
I want bisexual, pansexual, asexual, transgender, lesbian flags, and whatever else can be thrown in, and items to fit with those color schemes too.
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby King AdamYovillian (136744463) » Sun May 19, 2019 8:37 pm

Vi Corleone (177818762) wrote:I'd love a pride theme, but with more than just the rainbow.
I want bisexual, pansexual, asexual, transgender, lesbian flags, and whatever else can be thrown in, and items to fit with those color schemes too.


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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Tue May 21, 2019 12:47 am

BOBBI (13706123) wrote: I'm also tired of the same three color schemes for themes and would love a variety of colors to design with.


That's what I'm really - really pushing for! Just more than three colors!
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Re: Theme Proposal - PRIDE (2019)

Postby Dex Dexter (131354847) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:46 pm

Vi Corleone (177818762) wrote:I'd love a pride theme, but with more than just the rainbow.


The rainbow would just be a bonus. The main push is solid colored items of more than just neutral browns and those garish magentas and turquoise.

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